I was out on a date recently and during the course of our conversation, my date (who was very attractive) mentioned that she has a lot of "friends" and that she "doesn't need a relationship." I just kept smiling, nodded my head and said, "Oh yeah, tell me more".
She proceeded to tell me that she has various male friends that do things for her and that the car she's driving now was a "gift" and so forth. I was able (thanks to your coaching) to translate her 'women speak' into the fact that she has a small army of wimpy guys for "friends" that she only keeps as her "friends" because they can either:
1) Do something for her.
2) Buy something for her.
3) Take her out somewhere.
I just want to say, Doc, that had it not been for "The System," I probably would've joined her group of "friends," never gotten her respect and would have nothing but an empty wallet to show for it. (She actually called me a few days later with a seductive damsel in distress tone to her voice, asking me to help her with something. I took a pass.)
Please share this with your readers. I want to help you help as many guys as possible to not get sucked into this loser's game. Thanks a million!!
Duncan - who would like to hear your comments on this
Thanks Duncan,
Although you almost never hear about it in the mainstream media, all you guys should be aware that there is a significant percentage of women out there who have no ethical conflict whatsoever with the idea of using men for favors while motivating them with false hopes of intimacy. To you Psych majors, don't expect to see a show about this on Oprah.
But let me make some distinctions here. There are different types of women who use men. Two of the most common are: Ovaria Mercenaria - The Mercenary and her cousin, The Queen Bee. The Mercenary differs from the Queen Bee in that once she has picked out as her mark, a man who will provide her with enhanced social status, unlimited financial resources, and a life of leisure, she will then give her body to him as her part of the bargain - but NOT her heart. She must, however, convince her victim that she has fallen in love with him. That's a crucial part of the con.
What distinguishes The Mercenary from The Queen Bee, is that there is, no matter how hollow and meaningless it may be, some tangible form of reciprocity given for the goodies that she gets. She does get intimate with her victim. (Although once a contract has been signed, i.e., marriage, the frequency of the intimacy often diminishes substantially.)
The Queen Bee, on the other hand, who is the subject of today's article, usually has a collection of several different men who provide her with goods and services and to whom she never gives more than a peck on the cheek. Her guy pals get to be her butler, banker and/or Mr. Fixit, but none of them ever gets to have a real relationship with her.
This tempestuous temptress plays dumb and acts as if she has no idea that the various guys in her orbit are attracted to her and are waiting and hoping that she will choose them to be her boyfriend. If she's ever asked about her relationship with one of them, she'll say, "Oh, he's a really great friend." When translated into English from women speak this means: "He's one of my stooges."
The sick thing is that this is all perfectly fine with Ms. "Me." As far as she's concerned, they're all lucky to be able to spend time with her, and they deserve to pay for the privilege. They give. She takes. That's the relationship. She keeps 'em comin' back for more by being as warm and sweet as sun drenched honey on the outside. But her heart is as cold as a week old cadaver.
One could argue, that these guys who follow her bidding like indentured servants deserve what they get (or to be more precise - what they don't get). But as my Cousin Sal, "The Fish" Love, would say, "In the game of Love, there are no victims, only volunteers."
The problem is that these fellows have allowed themselves to be hypnotized into believing that their investment in time, money and energy is winning them points and helping to build the Queen Bee's romantic Interest Level in them. But the opposite is true. The more hoops these guys jump through, the more the Q.B. chuckles with contempt for them. (Some of them wake up and save themselves from more abuse after only a few months of servitude. Others go on for years in a state of ignorance and denial like living zombies.)
The way to deal with this dangerous darling is to never get involved with her to begin with, no matter how beautiful she may be. Walk away from her the way you'd walk away from a losing crap table in a Vegas casino.
Yes, if you're an advanced student, you could use "The System" to play with her head, give her a taste of her own medicine, and get her to give you some respect. But here's the problem. You won't be able to change the essentially corrupt nature of her character, and you'd ultimately have to dump her anyway. You'd be much better off spending your time and energy courting a woman who is sweet and loving and giving.
Duncan, it sounds as if you may have had and experience in the past of playing the Queen Bee's chump. But this time around, thanks to "The System," you did the right thing. As they say in Australia - Good on ya! Men, let Duncan's savvy handling of this situation be an inspiration to you all.
Remember, guys: if you don't play with the Queen Bee, you can't get stung.
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Doc Love is a talk show host and entertainment speaker who coaches men in his seminars. For the past 30 years he has asked thousands of women, "Why do you stay with one man versus another?" Get a new love advice article from Doc Love every week!
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Ron Toronto
Posted at 6:56am on Friday, February 19th, 2010
I'm sorry i ended up seeing this article so late, I have been "dating" a queen bee for a month now and i totally want out. MOre men should read this...Thank you :)
Mike Northern Calif.
Posted at 5:04pm on Friday, January 22nd, 2010
This Queen Bee stuff is very true. I love the "He's a great friend" routine. A better one is "you're my best friend" which is something they will tell you only after they claim they can't have a relationship with someone that they aren't friends with first. After they get you to do their biding you will find they have less time for you and you have become a convienance. They are out for themselves and string guys on that can help them. They will give you just enough to keep you calling, even when you get mad at them, but they will never commit. You have to get rid of them. A good way to tell if you have a Queen Bee is to blow them off a couple of times and see if they start paying more attention to you. If you start getting comments like "don't you like me anymore?" or "don't you want to be my friend?" RUN! You will never be the ONE! Women like this can't commit and in some cases treat men like this on purpose just because they are mean.
Tom Northern California
Posted at 11:04am on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010
When I was unfortunate enough to be infatuated with the Queen Bee I was frustrated with the "relationship" not advancing intimately.The Queen was controlling and her agenda was all that concerned her.There was always something more important than doing anything or going anywhere I wanted to go or do. ie. "I have to pick up my cheerleader daughter from school, (a grueling 6 block walk), have to babysit granddaughter, ect.,ect. This "Goddess" likes to portray herself as funny, smart, and sexy, a disguise for her cold, controlling, and selfish nature. As the saying goes, "pretty face don`t make a pretty heart." I`m glad to be done with this one and won`t be likely to make that mistake again.
Leslie Northern Calif
Posted at 3:29pm on Sunday, January 10th, 2010
Wow, I think this kind of behavior needs to be exposed whether it is done by male or female. I have encountered men who go from one woman supporting them to the next. One said ,"I need to move out of her place because I'm really interested in You." yeah right, or "I need a woman to take care of me so I can concentrate on my art without distractions..." what, like work? doing your own laundry? When I didn't respond with, "oh you poor thing, you can move in with me" I didn't hear from them again. Gee wonder why. There are users and they come in all shapes, sizes and sexes. No one can take advantage of you without your consent. Don't be blinded by a pretty face/bod- it has nothing to do with integrity.
Sharlyn Edmonton,Alberta
Posted at 11:41am on Thursday, December 31st, 2009
The "player" waitress near my home town played my husband as well as lots of other guys and cost him his marriage.
Earl New Orleans
Posted at 8:25am on Monday, December 28th, 2009
I think I've met this woman Duncan,she tries to guilt trip you into doing things for her while emailing and calling different guys,I caught her.She says that they all stalk her.
Gareth South Africa
Posted at 4:08pm on Saturday, December 12th, 2009
I've recently come out of a "relationship" with a queen bee, I was held on a line believing there is something for about 6 months.
After waisting thousands on her, I met a guy at a party at her place and we talked upon which we mutually discovered we were both being played like fools... luckily both of us stopped our "relationship" ASAP. Why I didn't see it earlier I don't know, but thankfully she doesn't have a hold on me anymore.
Mike Toronto
Posted at 10:43am on Thursday, November 12th, 2009
I have been used by both The Mercenary and The Queen Bee. They play the game so well. I felt special. After a while you feel used and try to change. They detect this and become more charming, then ask again. It has been over a year since I left her and I am still surprised as to the amount of money I managed to save since then. I will never fall for a pretty face again without first finding out if it is a the face of a Mercenary or a Queen Bee.
Great article
Mike Toronto
Posted at 10:42am on Thursday, November 12th, 2009
I have been used by both The Mercenary and The Queen Bee. They play the game so well. I felt special. After a while you feel used and try to change. They detect this and become more charming, then ask again. It has been over a year since I left her and I am still surprised as to the amount of money I managed to save since then. I will never fall for a pretty face again without first finding out if it is a the face of a Mercenary or a Queen Bee.
Great article
andronicus Location unknown
Posted at 3:30pm on Friday, September 18th, 2009
I've been through this. Duration over a couple of years. I lost so much in my standing amongst my work peers. Admitting what was happening to myself didn't happen until she had everything. She was above my social status, and she would frequently energize my confusion with various forms of seemingly innocent contact. I'd do anything for a way to re-frame the memories to make me seem less pathetic, but it's a losing battle. Why isn't there more about this on the net or anywhere? The power this woman has over everyone is bad enough, but the lack of material out there is a contributing factor to it. I'm done with this, however, there is no way I would let such a thing consume another day of my life.
What the hell, people? What - the - fracking - hell?
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